alt.support.cancer - Frequently Asked Questions

Charter


Table of Contents

Introduction

About this document

The purpose of alt.support.cancer

Policy

What is strictly prohibited on this newsgroup?

Legal notices

Before you post to alt.support.cancer

Posting to alt.support.cancer

What are considered appropriate topics on this newsgroup?

What are considered inappropriate topics on this newsgroup?

Newsgroup responses

How to address the problem of posters violating the FAQ

Approving or changing the alt.support.cancer FAQ


Introduction

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Welcome to the official FAQ for newsgroup alt.support.cancer. Please take the time to read this document, especially if you are new to alt.support.cancer.

Disclaimer: this FAQ is provided for educational purposes only. It cannot be used for diagnosing or treating a disease. If you have or suspect you may have cancer, you should consult your doctor. The external links in this FAQ are provided for the convenience of alt.support.cancer visitors. The alt.support.cancer newsgroup has no interest in, responsibility for, or control over the linked sites and no responsibility is accepted for information on any linked page, please read the linked provider's own disclaimer where appropriate. The alt.support.cancer newsgroup makes no promises or warranties of any kind, express or implied, including those of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose, as to the content of any linked site. In no event shall the newsgroup alt.support.cancer be liable for any damages resulting from use of these links.

About this document

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This FAQ is intended to provide detailed information about alt.support.cancer to the users so that the alt.support.cancer newsgroup will be better utilized for the purposes of supporting cancer patients and caregivers.

This FAQ is written and maintained by the users of alt.support.cancer. The latest alt.support.cancer FAQ can be found online at www.cancersupporters.com The FAQ will be periodically posted by a member of the group to news:alt.support.cancer newsgroup.

Corrections and minor updates are permitted without a vote. The exception is the Charter, which, cannot be changed without a group vote. Update procedures for this FAQ can be found at the end of this section.

The purpose of alt.support.cancer

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The Usenet group alt.support.cancer is a resource for those whose lives are touched by cancer. The primary purpose of alt.support.cancer is for emotional support and discussion among patients and caregivers. It is also a place to gather and discuss issues related to cancer and the impact it has on patients and caregivers .

Policy

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Appropriate posts are welcome.

Lurkers and newbies are always welcome in alt.support.cancer.

The members of alt.support.cancer must be overly considerate and protective of the newbie or the casual lurker to this NG, so that these new members to the cancer club don't get mislead, or feel that this NG is not living up to our purpose.

Because Usenet is susceptible to net abuses, and because alt.support.cancer is not moderated the alt.support.cancer members in good standing deem it necessary to self-regulate the group's content. Members in good standing follow the guidelines outlined in this FAQ.

Who determines what is appropriate in alt.support.cancer? With few exceptions, that is up to the individual to decide. You might think a post is perfectly okay, while someone else could well consider it ridiculously far off-topic or otherwise inappropriate. If that happens, consensus of the group reigns. If after reading the group for a while you are still unsure as to what sort of posts are acceptable in alt.support.cancer, check out The alt.support.cancer archives on Google Groups.

The newsgroup will prosecute violations of the Charter or FAQ as deemed necessary by the group.

What is strictly prohibited on this newsgroup?

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Under no circumstances is it appropriate to contact a member of the newsgroup at their residence or place of employment without their prior approval. Read this again. There are no exceptions!

Posing as a medical professional is strictly prohibited. For example, don't use a doctorate in finance or mineralogy to convey the impression that you are a medical doctor qualified to recommend treatments or diagnose disease. This includes the use of "Dr., Doc, PhD, RN, LPN, med, etc." in your name, e-mail address, or alias. If you claim one of these titles be prepared to provide degree, major/minor, university, year it was earned, and years experience. You must provide substantive information if asked by any member of the group.

If you have been convicted of health fraud, you are not welcome in alt.support.cancer.

Posing as a cancer patient/caregiver for promoting products or services is strictly prohibited.

Commercial advertising is prohibited.

Product posts by individuals with a financial or business interest are prohibited.

Deceptive posts disguised to conceal other prohibited content are prohibited.

For sale, sales, links to auction sites i.e. eBay, or selling items are prohibited.

Donation requests are prohibited.

Soliciting for capital funds is prohibited.

Chain letters, mailing lists, frauds, urban legends, Multi-level Marketing, Make Money Fast, investment schemes are prohibited.

Posting in HTML or attachments containing binaries or images are prohibited.

Off-topic materials, advertising, spam, excessive posting of the same material, cancel attacks, encrypted or coded postings, and inappropriate cross-postings are prohibited.

Opportunities, business opportunities, job postings, resumes, announcements, flaming, trolling, baiting, flooding, post bombing, troublemaking, or other forms of net-abuse or abuse of alt.support.cancer newsgroup users are prohibited.

Troll posting (cross-postings directed to a.s.c from other newsgroups with the express purpose of disrupting the a.s.c group), flame baiting or unwarranted flaming is prohibited.

Fraudulent activity is prohibited.

Deceptive information is prohibited.

Making outrageous or unsupported claims is prohibited.

Slander or other criminal acts are prohibited.

Hipcrime or other inappropriate posts made via malicious scripts or programs are prohibited.

Test messages are prohibited use alt.test instead and put "ignore" in the subject.

Legal notices

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The information provided in this FAQ is designed to support-not replace-the relationship that exists between a patient and their health care system. Information from this document should be used only for individual educational purposes. If any of the information in this FAQ conflicts with professional advice you have received, follow the professional advice.

This newsgroup is not affiliated with any profit/nonprofit organization or corporation.

By posting to this group, you acknowledge having read the FAQs document, and agree to adhere to it. You further agree that failure to abide is grounds for members of alt.support.cancer to blacklist you and file formal complaints with your ISP or web host. Members of alt.support.cancer hereby give notice that any failure to abide by the FAQs will be prosecuted fully at their discretion. By posting to this group, you agree to hold alt.support.cancer members harmless for prosecution of those complaints.

You must abide by your Internet Service Provider's Acceptable Use Policy to be a member in good standing of alt.support.cancer. Violation of your ISP's AUP is a violation of our policies and opens you to prosecution by the group.

Understand that these are other human beings you are communicating with and that normal legalities and proprieties that are appropriate in public are applicable in alt.support.cancer.

Criminal activities will not be tolerated.

Usenet/ISP AUP commercial posting violations will be prosecuted, one occurrence will be considered an offense.

This is an unmoderated newsgroup by definition. Having said that, there exists a form of user moderation. We cannot control what you post to the NG, but we can and do hold you accountable for straying from acceptable behavior as defined in this FAQ. This is not intended as censorship, but rather, to prevent the NG from turning into a cesspool. Please help us keep the signal-to-noise ratio down.

Before you post to alt.support.cancer

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Please read the newsgroup before posting. Lurking for at least one week prior to posting the first time in a new newsgroup is considered standard acceptable behavior.

Before you post your first message, spam proof your e-mail address by setting your From: and Reply: e-mail address to nospam@nospam.inv or adding words or numbers that the sender can be instructed to remove.

Search Google Groups for the answer to your question. If you cannot find the answer there, then it is appropriate to post to the NG.

Verify that your newsreader options for posting to a newsgroup are set to TEXT, and not set to HTML. Plain text means it's text only, with line length under 80 (preferably under 72) characters. See Configuring Mail Clients to Send Plain ASCII Text.

Do not use stationery backgrounds, color backgrounds, or color text. Use plain text on a plain background.

Posting to alt.support.cancer

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A post should contribute to the general discussion.

Post in English.

Please post links to sites that are English language.

Please do not criticize the spelling or grammar of another person.

If you don't understand what someone has posted ask for clarification.

Be polite.

Do not respond/complain on the newsgroup about inappropriate or off-topic posts. Ignore them or put them in your kill file.

If you don't like the content or direction of the newsgroup, feel free to killfile or exit the group.

If you can find a more appropriate newsgroup for your message, post to it.

In general, if you feel the need to vent your spleen online, write the message, go and moan about the issue to your spouse, relatives, neighbors, and friends, then if you still feel it's appropriate, send it.

If you cannot resist posting a cure or treatment here, post the complete treatment description with supporting data. That would include clinical trial results and papers published in reputable journals. Provide your connection or affiliation-financial or otherwise-with the product, the company, board of directors, or owners. Provide your qualifications to discuss this product, including but not limited to degrees, positions, experience, titles, publications, and references. If you have a record of criminal arrest, you must reveal the date, location, circumstances, and outcome. Links to this information are acceptable.

Please do not ask us to e-mail you for information; after all, this is a newsgroup. If it can't be posted to the group it won't pass the smell test.

Patients and caregivers please do not post your name, address, or telephone number on this newsgroup. It is OK to remain anonymous. Since 1981, all posts to newsgroups are archived by Google.

Please use good netiquette, trim quoted material (long messages) or unnecessary cross posting in your replies, and avoid top posting and SHOUTING. Don't assume that your message will be read at the same time as the post you are replying to, and don't assume that all readers will be using a threaded newsreader. By quoting the relevant parts of the message you are replying to, it provides a context for your reply. Your message will make more sense to readers if you reply below quoted text. This is true if the reader has not seen the post to which you are replying, or reads it out-of-order.

Read The power of negative thinking: The seven don'ts of Usenet, or how to excel without doing anything.

Do not have unreasonable expectations.

Just because it is posted (multiple times) on alt.support.cancer does not make it true.

If you make a mistake, own up to it, we are all human; nobody will think any worse of you.

Inquiries about cancer medicine may be posted to sci.med.diseases.cancer. If your post is more about medicine than cancer support, post to sci.med.diseases.cancer instead.

Please think carefully before posting a news article. If you must, post the link not the complete text.

Cross-posting should be limited to other appropriate groups.

Trim cross-post groups from your replies.

Choose your topic/subject line carefully to obtain the best replies. Non-specifics like "Help" or "Question" make it more difficult to search them later (for others) in the Google archives. A well-thought out subject will get the attention of the persons you hope to reach quicker than a "generic" subject line.

Categorize your post in the subject field by using the appropriate subheading abbreviation for your topic. This would identify the topic in the thread and allow users to filter or ignore threads that they have no interest in. Also helpful for those only looking for posts about specific kinds of topics/cancers, and makes it easier when searching through the archives. Absence of any subheading-the default-implies that the content is concerning general cancer support issues.
[ADMIN] - newsgroup administration
[ALT] - alternative, or unconventional cancer therapies
[ANCMT] - events, announcements
[BMT] - aggressive chemotherapy with bone marrow transplant or stem cell rescue
[CAM] - complementary and alternative medicine
[CHEM] - chemotherapy, antineoplastics
[CHEMO] - chemotherapy
[COPE] - emotional or psychological issues
[FAQ] - frequently asked questions
[FRAUD] - health fraud
[FUN],[ JOKE], or [HUMOR] - a moment of silliness
[INT] - issues of intimacy, relationships and sex, family members
[MAMO] - imaging, mammography, radiology
[MED] - medical
[METS] - metastases, advanced cancer
[MISC] - miscellaneous (anything not listed)
[OT] - off topic
[PAIN] - pain
[PATH] - pathology, biopsies, staging
[RANT] or [VENT] - blowing off steam
[RECR] - recurrence
[SUP] - messages of support, words of encouragement
[TAMX] - tamoxifen and related drugs

All off topic post headers should have [OT] at the beginning.

What are considered appropriate topics on this newsgroup?

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Questions and answers from patients and caregivers.

Emotional support of patients and caregivers.

Sharing of problems and solutions.

Friendly conversations about patient and caregiver.

Discussions of treatments for cancer.

Dignity

Friendship

Compassion

Understanding

Respect

Information about clinical trials for cancer treatments

Information on support products such as Miracle Mouthwash, Second Skin, etc. (only if posted by those with no financial or business interests)

Ranting and  raving to vent frustration or a complaint. A rant is usually off-topic, but occasionally concerns one of our topics of discussion. There is nothing wrong with an occasional rant.

Humor. Many believe that a positive attitude and a good laugh can improve the effectiveness of any treatment. It certainly improves the quality of life.

Periodic reposts of the FAQs or links to them

FAQs business, updates, call for votes, other related issues or newsgroup business.

What are considered inappropriate topics on this newsgroup?

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Encouraging patients to stop or avoid conventional proven cancer treatment in favor of unconventional and unproven treatment is inappropriate.

Encouraging patients to accept the use of unproven diagnostic techniques including, but not limited to self-diagnosis, diagnosis by questionnaire, diagnosis by fraudulent machines is inappropriate.

Advocating treatments that have been disproven scientifically or have not successfully completed all phases of a clinical trial is inappropriate.

Impersonation of another user is inappropriate.

Canceling posts of another user is inappropriate.

Harassment is inappropriate.

Threats are inappropriate.

Cross posting to groups outside of the cancer support community is inappropriate. Cross-posts should be limited to other newsgroups that are part of the support community or deal with cancer topics. Cross posting means that a message is simultaneously posted in other groups.

Excessive cross posting (cross-posting to four or more newsgroups) is inappropriate. Consider posting copies to other newsgroups.

Excessive multi-posting—defined as posting many repeat copies of a substantively identical article (i.e. reposting spam)—is inappropriate.

Offensive or cruel posts are inappropriate.

Off-topic posts are inappropriate.

Political calls to action requests are inappropriate.

Signature files in excess of four lines or V-cards are inappropriate on the NG and are discouraged.

Newsgroup responses

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If you did not get the response you expected, consider these questions:

Is it possible that the question has already been answered?

Is it possible that nobody has anything to add to the thread?

Is it possible that nobody knows the answer to your question?

Is it posted to the newsgroup best able to answer? If not, post to a more appropriate group.

Read your post again and see if it conveyed your message as you intended. If not, try reposting your message with a clearer statement of what you want from the group. Be sure to include symptoms, tumor locations, diagnosis, staging, grade, and any other relative information that may help the group to understand your post.

Many people post to a NG using an archiving service like Google groups, and these messages may not be properly propagated over Usenet. Therefore, they aren’t read by everyone. In addition, some ISP's or their NG providers don’t propagate well with the same result. Try posting from another source.

How to address the problem of posters violating the FAQ

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This is probably the most difficult part of using unmoderated newsgroups on Usenet.

A grassroots organization exists in the NG that reserves the right to determine what is appropriate content and response. In reality there are numerous reasons why free speech is not/cannot be censored on the Internet. Realizing that, the best that alt.support.cancer can hope for is compliance with the rules in this FAQ. Compliance would afford someone the ability to post here, if they must, without irrational reaction from the group. Noncompliance by a person would open them up to the wrath of the group. Both are forms of positive or negative feedback intended to control the enforcement of the FAQ. That seems to be a now-working formula.

The alternative is to let this newsgroup decay and those who need help; support, etc. would all end up leaving.

Approving or changing the alt.support.cancer FAQ

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Pay attention to any proposed changes, because they will determine how you get to use the group.

The first step in the process is the Call for Votes (CFV). This is the formal request for anyone who is interested to vote on the proposal(s). The CFV will be posted to the NG, so if you did not care about discussing the proposal but you do want to vote, watch for the CFV.

Read the CFV. It will contain explicit instructions on where to send e-mail to register your vote. Note that ONLY E-mailed votes count. DO NOT post your vote on the NG it will not count.

To vote, send one e-mail to the vote taker's e-mail address in the CFV. In the vote add a keyword or phrase to identify yourself if you wish to remain anonymous, the default ID is your e-mail address. This keyword or phrase will be posted on the NG to allow you to verify that your vote was correctly counted. To allow everyone a chance to vote, the voting window will remain open for seven days. One vote per person is permitted. Please vote everyone.

Once you have voted, you should receive an acknowledgement (ACK) from the vote taker. Read it. It may say that the vote was not understood. If so, correct the problem and vote again.

Mail systems are not perfect. The act of sending e-mail does not guarantee receipt by the vote taker. The mail may disappear without a trace. You may not get a bounce message. The only way of knowing that your vote got through is if you get a reply saying your vote got through. Your E-mail address will be kept private and not shared with others.

The results of the vote are checked for duplicate or obviously bogus votes, and then tallied. This may take several days, or longer.

Eventually, the results will appear in alt.support.cancer.

The next step in the process is the 5-day verification delay. The vote result contains a list of everyone who voted and how they voted. Look for your vote there.

If your vote is recorded incorrectly, send mail to the vote taker and post something to alt.support.cancer. If your vote is missing, and you have an ACK for it, do the same. Without proof, there is nothing that can be done if your vote is missing. You can say that your vote was not counted, but lacking proof that it got through, it probably will not ever be counted. The responsibility for getting the vote to the vote taker is YOURS, not theirs.

Please remember, e-mail is not perfect, nor are vote takers. If your vote does not show up in the final list of voters, it is probably because it was lost in the mail, not because the vote taker is deliberately dumping votes.

For a vote to pass it has to have at least a 51% majority of YES votes. Having not met the prior threshold means the issue has been voted down.

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